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Thank you, admiral, appreciate it. First question I want to ask is how much of a alarm -- how much alarm to you that Iran was able to discover this? Assuming it's true, and you can also say it's a -- you have no knowledge of it, but a document saying -- and it was written by your predecessor, but saying that Iran discovered a program by the U.

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This isn't something unique, per se. You look at what we've seen nation-states attempting to do against U.

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Are you concerned that you aren't bringing enough new people, new cyber experts into the military and that you're taking away some native capability that ought to be in the services? You know, I don't think there's any doubt.

Is there a connection with a foreign nation -- i. Good to see you again. And if so, what could be done? Do you think the pressure is off to some degree? But if we really are willing to sit down and have a conversation, we can move where we need to be.

It's why we have a European ,ook. And on the other hand, we respond to the legal framework that is created for us. People talk about the coming cyberwar, but when I look at that, just as an observer and as a reporter, it looks to me like we're already at war to some degree, a low-level war, but with these countries, these -- these are attacks with real consequences, real capabilities. Now, we do that in some ways already.

You don't want us unilaterally making that decision. This is not something isolated. But my comment would be that idea is not unique to cyber, for example. It's not unique to nsw, and it's not the first time in the history of our nation we've had challenges like this, and it won't be the last.

Thank you, admiral, appreciate it. cybersecurity

SCIUTTO: You don't think that the -- the fight over metadata could hold up, particularly when we speak in the renewal or extension ofother, more useful tools in fighting terrorism? Snowden inquiry to the NSA Uere of General Counsel May 29, NSA has now explained that they have found one inquiry by Edward Snowden to the Office of General Counsel asking for an explanation Het some material that was in a training course he had just completed.

The question, of course, is how the agency defines who is, and who is Hey look here nsa, "a potential adversary. But in terms of -- I go to the first part.

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I'm still going to ask you questions, but I want to give folks -- folks a chance to answer as well -- to ask some questions, as well. It's we have a Central Command. And that's why partnerships are so important to us, because we are a foreign intelligence organization. Do you -- do you develop new -- sounds like an obvious question, but -- but have you found yourself forced to develop new capabilities to make up for the lost capabilities?

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We clearly are not, I think, where we need to be, where I think we want collectively to be. And you have China. As I submitted through proper channels, I got a response. We have got to come to grips with some really hard fundamental questions. Sounds like you're acknowledging that that broader impact, those broader costs, have to be part na the decision.

It's a perception and a reality question. Leandra Bernstein, Sputnik International News.

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During his two years in the Sourth Korean military, Mun worked as a contractor for the NSA, extracting information from intelligence intercepts. In terms of what are we trying to do broadly -- I mean, first, I -- I Hy acknowledge, clearly, it's a concern. Yere know, what's the economic impact of this? A lot of talk -- when I speak to intelligence officials, they will acknowledge that terror groups have altered the way they communicate post-Snowden, and that's made a difference.

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We seem to be comfortable that the construct is workable, that the construct is generating value, better outcomes, if you will. Cyber Command is in its maturity and its journey right now, it needs the capabilities of the National Security Agency to execute its mission to defend critical U. I'm concerned about the security of our allies and their citizens. And does the program as currently, with the amendments that were directed by the president, or changes that Congress may elect, because, remember, this is all derived from a law passed by Congress, the Patriot Act, specifically section of the act.

Do -- do you find that they are sna some of these smaller-scale attacks, I mean, there was even one that went into the White House computer system, not the sensitive system, but still. Hey, I'm a U.

It's either total encryption or no encryption at all. It goes to who we are and what we are.

Although I will be the first to admit, as I had said coincidentally just a couple of weeks before, I had been testifying in the House, I'd said, look, I think it's only a matter of time before we see destructive offensive actions taking against -- taken against critical U. Now, I'll be honest, now you're getting into the specifics of an area that isn't, you know, my personal focus. So from John Leprise phthe question is, based on last week's announcement or research that Kaspersky has announced that there were -- there was news of firmware hacking, has the firmware of core network routers or repeaters been similarly hacked?

You're a fine man. Which of those countries should we give back doors to?

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Cyber Command, and then have an intelligence kind of individual running NSA? So, you didn't worry about, well, were people Heh to attempt to -- when we deed most of these, concerns about people's ability to penetrate those networks, to manipulate data, to steal data, really wasn't a primary factor. The -- the positive side, I think, is the immediate actions.

It's a massively parallel supercomputer called Cascade, a prototype of which is due at the end of Once the communications Hey look here nsa intercepted and stored, the data-mining begins. That shouldn't be for us. There's no doubt. But people don't heree about it a lot, and we know we have this deadline coming up June 1st, but it's not the same tenor. That's the case here, in my mind.

And how does that differ from land, air, and sea? Cyber is no different. So Mung deed a typeface that can be deciphered by humans, but not by the optical character recognition software employed by spy agencies to rapidly scan billions of documents as they fly across the InterWebs.

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